We continue the study of \emph{initial dialgebras} defined in~\cite{DMS2026}. For a binary operad we define the class of initial pre--algebras and the corresponding operad in such a way that in the case when is quadratic. We propose an intuitive algorithm for finding the defining relations of the operad in the case when is a binary quadratic operad. We also study free initial pre-algebras in the associative and commutative settings. For the nonsymmetric operad , we construct a Grobner–Shirshov basis in the free magma operad, describe a linear basis in terms of admissible decorated planar binary trees, and establish a bijection between these trees and certain combinatorial objects.

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