We consider a seemingly weaker form of Turing determinacy. Let , $\rho (\Delta^1_1)$ is the statement: Every set of reals cofinal in the Turing degrees contains two Turing distinct, -equivalent reals. We show in : implies: for every $\nu < \omega_1^{}M \models ^- + \aleph\nu $. As a corollary: If every cofinal set of Turing degrees contains both a degree and its jump, then for every , there is a transitive model: . – With a simple proof, this improves upon a well-known result of Harvey Friedman on the strength of Borel determinacy (though not assessed level-by-level). – Invoking Tony Martin’s proof of Borel determinacy, implies determinacy. We show further that determinacy imparts weak determinacy properties to the class .

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