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We obtain several lower bounds on the of -degenerate -free graphs. Let denote the smallest of an -free -degenerate graph on edges. We show that $f(m,d,K_r)\ge \left(\frac{1}{2} + d^{-1+\Omega(r^{-1})}\right)m$, generalizing a recent work of Carlson, Kolla, and Trevisan. We also give bounds on when is a cycle, odd wheel, or a complete bipartite graph with at most 4 vertices on one side. We also show stronger bounds on assuming a conjecture of Alon, Bollabas, Krivelevich, and Sudakov (2003). We conjecture that for every $r\ge 3$, and show that this conjecture implies the ABKS conjecture.

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