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We show that if is a countable transitive model of ZF and if are reals not in , then there is a generic over such that $b \in L[a,G]J$ is any countable transitive model of ZFC and is another countable transitive model of ZFC of the same ordinal height , then there is a forcing extension of such that is not included in any transitive model of ZFC of height . Also, assuming exists, letting be the set of reals generic over , although is disjoint from the Turing cone above , we have that for any non-constructible real , is cofinal in the Turing degrees.

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