The maximal normal subgroup growth type of a finitely generated group is . Very little is known about groups with this type of growth. In particular, the following is a long standing problem: Let be a group and a subgroup of finite index. Suppose has normal subgroup growth of type , does has normal subgroup growth of type ? We give a positive answer in some cases, generalizing a result of M"uller and the second author and a result of Gerdau. For instance, suppose is a profinite group and an open subgroup of . We show that if is a generalized Golod-Shafarevich group, then has normal subgroup growth of type of . We also use our methods to show that one can find a group with characteristic subgroup growth of type .

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