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We exhibit a finitely generated group and a sequence of finite index normal subgroups such that for every finite generating subset , the sequence of finite Cayley graphs does not coarsely embed into any -space for (moreover, into any uniformly curved Banach space), and yet admits no weakly embedded expander. The reason why our examples do not coarsely embed is a new phenomenon called relative expansion, which we define in terms of Poincar'e inequalities.

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