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Our motivating question was whether all traces on a U-ultrapower of a C*-algebra A, where U is a non-principal ultrafilter on N, are necessarily U-limits of traces on A. We show that this is false so long as A has infinitely many extremal traces, and even exhibit a 2^c size family of such traces on the ultrapower. For this to fail even when A has finitely many traces implies that A contains operators that can be expressed as sums of n+1 but not n -commutators, for arbitrarily large n. We show that this happens for a direct sum of Pedersen-Petersen C-algebras, and analyze some other interesting properties of these C*-algebras.

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