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Let be a map of compact metric spaces. A classical theorem of Hurewicz asserts that where $\dim f =\sup {\dim f^{-1}(y): y \in Y }. The first author conjectured that {\em\dim Y + \dim f\sup {\dim (Y \times f^{-1}(y)): y \in Y }$}. We disprove this conjecture. As a by-product of the machinery presented in the paper we answer in negative the following problem posed by the first author: {\em Can for compact the Menger-Urysohn formula $\dim X \leq \dim A + \dim B +1\dim X \leq \dim (A \times B) +1$ ?} On a positive side we show that both conjectures holds true for compacta satisfying the equality .

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