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We give counterexamples to two conjectures of Brettell, Jowett, Oxley, Semple, and Whittle concerning tangles in matroid minors. We construct a matroid with a tangle of order seven. For each , let denote its order- truncation. No proper minor of admits, for every such , a tangle of order whose breadth equals that of , and is not weakly -connected. We also construct a matroid with a tangle of order four and breadth six, but no internally -connected minor of admits a tangle of order four.

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